Comments on: What is the radial distance between the holes in Spirograph wheels? https://spirographicart.com/2014/05/03/radial-distance-holes-spirograph-wheels/ Tips, reviews, how-to information about Spirograph and similar drawing tools Mon, 24 Jun 2024 21:16:45 +0000 hourly 1 By: Edward https://spirographicart.com/2014/05/03/radial-distance-holes-spirograph-wheels/#comment-43978 Mon, 24 Jun 2024 21:16:45 +0000 https://spirographicart.com/?p=320#comment-43978 I just measured the between holes, using a set of digital callipers, on my original Denys Fisher Spirograph ,and got 0.63mm between holes. So I think Heather’s and Harold’s measurements of 0.65 and 0.66, respectively, are probably good too.

With regards to differences between wheels, distance between holes and distant to first hole, Heather’s assumptions are correct. I had a look at the GB Spirograph Patent.

It stipulates, on page 2, lines 11 to 22:

(a) Each successive aperture 7* in the spiral relationship is progressively closer to the geometric centre of the member by an equal and standard difference in radial position.
(b) The geometrical centres of the apertures lie on radial lines which intersect the external tooth form of the periphery at points which are one quarter of the pitch of the teeth distant from the centre of a tooth.
(c) The outermost aperture is a constant distance from the externally toothed periphery of each member.

* This number refers to the label for the holes, in the drawings supplied with the patent application.

Interestingly, there are patents for many of Denys Fishers other Spirograph and similar toys, including the: GB Super Spirograph Patent.

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By: Hany https://spirographicart.com/2014/05/03/radial-distance-holes-spirograph-wheels/#comment-301 Wed, 15 Jan 2020 04:26:20 +0000 https://spirographicart.com/?p=320#comment-301 Thank you for your answer.

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By: Heather https://spirographicart.com/2014/05/03/radial-distance-holes-spirograph-wheels/#comment-300 Mon, 13 Jan 2020 20:22:40 +0000 https://spirographicart.com/?p=320#comment-300 In reply to Hany.

Hi Hany,
All I have is an ordinary ruler so my precision is limited. The largest ring has 150 teeth on the outside and the diameter (not radius, d=2r) is about 97 mm. You can do the math from there for the other rings and wheels. Maybe you can buy a Spirograph set and check your math against the pieces, then try drawing some patterns by hand for a whole different experience!

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By: Hany https://spirographicart.com/2014/05/03/radial-distance-holes-spirograph-wheels/#comment-299 Mon, 13 Jan 2020 04:21:04 +0000 https://spirographicart.com/?p=320#comment-299 Hello, I use Latex Tikz (https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/521684/drawing-spirograph-patterns) to make spirogrphic drawing. I would like to know the radii of the Rings/wheels to use them in the equation used; since their numbers indicated the number of the teeth not the radii. Thank you

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By: PacoH https://spirographicart.com/2014/05/03/radial-distance-holes-spirograph-wheels/#comment-298 Thu, 26 Nov 2015 15:58:47 +0000 https://spirographicart.com/?p=320#comment-298 I forgot to mention, I found your fantastic site while searching for information about the Spirograph after reading this Instructable:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Spirograph-Art-Cards/
She is a kindred spirit. I mentioned your site in a comment.

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By: PacoH https://spirographicart.com/2014/05/03/radial-distance-holes-spirograph-wheels/#comment-297 Thu, 26 Nov 2015 01:50:17 +0000 https://spirographicart.com/?p=320#comment-297 I just lucked out on eBay and got an original Kenner 1967 Spirograph, red tray, in pristine condition with the manual and pin board intact. It should be interesting to compare this with the Denys Fisher version. I will report on any differences.

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By: PacoH https://spirographicart.com/2014/05/03/radial-distance-holes-spirograph-wheels/#comment-296 Wed, 25 Nov 2015 16:59:19 +0000 https://spirographicart.com/?p=320#comment-296 In reply to Heather Holm.

Heh heh. Sorry about that… Have a great Thanksgiving holiday.

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By: Heather Holm https://spirographicart.com/2014/05/03/radial-distance-holes-spirograph-wheels/#comment-295 Wed, 25 Nov 2015 16:50:22 +0000 https://spirographicart.com/?p=320#comment-295 In reply to PacoH.

Thanks for the review…. I just lost another 20 min of my life, lol. I see a review article about simulators in my future, but they will need more study. A holiday project, perhaps.

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By: PacoH https://spirographicart.com/2014/05/03/radial-distance-holes-spirograph-wheels/#comment-294 Wed, 25 Nov 2015 16:06:21 +0000 https://spirographicart.com/?p=320#comment-294 Wow, I found this online Spirograph simulator in my travels and it is fantastic:

http://mathiversity.com/online-spirograph/app

It is very user friendly, allows you to sign up so you can save your work, and has many many options, including ‘rotors’ and ‘stators’ that don’t exist in the real world. I am duly impressed. 🙂

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By: PacoH https://spirographicart.com/2014/05/03/radial-distance-holes-spirograph-wheels/#comment-293 Wed, 25 Nov 2015 06:02:53 +0000 https://spirographicart.com/?p=320#comment-293 In reply to Heather Holm.

Yah, I don’t know where that rogue version came from. It’s difficult to use and the patterns don’t always close. The original ones, developed by Andy Katz, are much better. I told him how he could improve them by using splines so they generate nice smooth scalable patterns now. The interface is all point and click.

That spirograph program is Windows only. I use a Mac. But I prefer to write my own code anyway.

The next thing you should get is a Magic Designer. They can be had cheap on eBay. They’re easier and faster to use than Spirograph and are built solid out of thick steel. Avoid the last plastic model they made. It is crap. I’d love to see you write an article about your experience with it. If you have time… 🙂

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